• for the love of it

    by  • February 28, 2008 • schmoop, too random • 9 Comments

    … what put my morale in order yesterday ~

    1. training with the pals

    2. glimpsing JustinRobinson taking his youth group out for a bike ride … he calls it training, i call it growth. thanks Justin ~ seeing that put a little light back into it all.

    3. a conversation with my woman. a conversation about love, and need, and trust.

    and i am grateful.

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    Ban Radios

    Michael Barry is a bit on the white-bread side of the fence, but gawdamn ~ i admire the way the guy rides and writes. And, he’s married to dede … so, he’s gotta have at least a wee bit of darky in him to keep a firestarter like that interested.

    Hell yeah, Barry. I’m a fan.

    Here’s an excerpt from his VsNewz piece {{LINK}} ~ too long, but right on.

    “At the back of the peloton there were splits and bottlenecks on the small roads, so unless the leader was well placed he had no chance at victory. As everybody is racing to put their leader in front the speed naturally increases to the point where it felt as though we were heading towards the finish line – there was desperation in the group and riders took risks diving up the side and through gaps that barely exist to make it to the front before the beginning of the climb.

    thats_me.jpgUniversally, in most major bike races, the same desperation can be heard in the director’s voice over the radio as he knows the climb is coming and splits in the group are imminent; he warns the riders, scolds the riders, yells at the riders, to get to the front, and in position. Over the radio, he counts down the kilometers until the climb begins, until the climb is over and then, when we get to the top, tells us to stay in front for the dangerous descent as splits in the peloton and crashes going downhill can be equally damaging to the team. Racing would be far safer, more dynamic and interesting if radios were banned as the director now tugs the reins on his horses telling them when to go, turn, stop and eat.”

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    9 Responses to for the love of it

    1. February 28, 2008 at

      radios = lack of instinct for many racers.

      the don’t know what to do, can’t read a race, and won’t make a move unless they’re told to do it by their director.

      technology has definitely changed the sport.

    2. Anonymous
      February 28, 2008 at

      I could care less about them radios…

      But I sure wish they would bring ipods back for TT’s. I sold the TT bike because I got into so much trouble last year with my ipod blaring from my skinflute…. Doing a TT without some HHC just isn’t the same, how do they expect me to whooopup on mcHutchster with only the sound of the wind?

      Oh yeah, and the woman talks, they do seem to want to do that a lot, wish we were programmed that way, since it is a pretty rough task to learn at 30+

    3. February 28, 2008 at

      I think it would be a good move for the Pro Tour to institute a few races that would eliminate the use of race radios. Just to see how much that would change the dynamic of the racing. Maybe teams would bitch about it, but the fans watching would not. It would distinguish those who can race on feel and guts, instead of just instruction. But hell those dopes keep on fighting over who is allowed to toe the start line so some innovative idea like this won’t see the light of day.

    4. Anonymous
      February 28, 2008 at

      Didn’t DiLuca say in an interview a while back that he never races with a radio because it dulls the instincts and a true capo should know what to do without the DS screaming it in his ear? Of course that’s easy to say when you’re doped to the gills and floating up the climbs like a feather. Hell I’d give up my radio for whatever he’s been on the last 3 years. That stuff does wonders for the “instincts.”

    5. chocodile
      February 28, 2008 at

      Yah there is a definite advantage for those who have someone telling them what to do at all times. Sorta takes the sport out of it and puts into to someone with a computer and clear head rather than a rider who is on the edge of cracking or making it that depends on his or her decision.

      What about a race radio but only one channel for everyone to listen to? Then they could develop code words… super spy james bond like.

      Maybe some people could start bringing radio jammers to the races to put out at the base of the climbs or in cars on the road behind the riders.. one could only imagine what havoc that would raise. Or maybe even ones that override the radio signal with polka music. bum bump bum bump.. da da da.. tweedle dee tweedle dee, bump bum.

    6. February 28, 2008 at

      baahahahahaaaaa…

      you said polka … jams ….

    7. Roman
      February 28, 2008 at

      Now now, the director may be telling you some stuff now and again but the critical decisions are always made by the riders. Racing is too dynamic and most of the time there is not enough time for conversation. More to the point, 99% of the time the director can’t see the race from the caravan so they can’t tell the riders what to do.
      What the director can do is remind the riders about the team’s general goals and give updates about the race. There is no way he can make split second decisions.
      Finally, 90 % of the time the conversation on the radio is between the riders themselves and not the director.

      From my perspective I don’t really see how the current use of radios hurts the quality of racing in any way.

    8. Lothar
      February 28, 2008 at

      I like to think the best races are when the cyclists are doing the racing…not the DS from the car. Roman’s point is a good one about the DS not having up to the second info but riders do. And, if riders can pass info via radio it detracts from the individual’s responsibility to “keep track” of the race. You hear it all the time in the Geezer races…”who’s up the road”, “are they in the break”, “what’s the split”.

      YO…pay attention! If you miss it…too f^()ing bad. You shoulda had a teammate on the front that was paying attention.

      And when it is a Geezer race and one team has radios, then when they are told that they can’t use them, then they use them anyway…shame on you. Bunch of damn cheaters.

      Race the race, play fair, let your legs do the talking, leave the radios home…and for the sake of all that is good in the world…HAVE FUN!

    9. chocodile
      February 29, 2008 at

      I dont agree with you totally Roman.

      You would not see the winning teams using them if they made little difference to the quality of racing.

      In many cases your right riders are talking amongst themselves on radios. And in a general state yes most teams don’t have a DS like Johan Bruneel and a half dozen support staff standing on the sidelines and sitting in cars watching television coverage of the race. giving them split times and point to point time gaps in TT’s..
      But then there are a few and there seems to be only a few teams that really win all the big races by narrow margins that had in normal instances winning breakaways. I have seen riders on the receiving end of that stick when a chase was ensued only when a DS gave the finish mileage and split times, caught with a mile or less to go.
      Don’t be fooled, you can see much more of a race at the front end of a caravan than one might imagine and that is why many team DS fight for caravan placements at the race manager meetings.

      Being one who sat in many NRC race caravans with a radio running on scan… Some DS’s gave a lot more info than basic weather stats.
      They remind them to eat, drink, when to not worry about an attack.. etc Stuff you have a tough time remembering when your going max effort.
      The riders gave the info back to the DS who in turn digests their request and sends it back to the lead riders etc.
      Including an instant feedback of each riders number, who they were, time gaps in GC, any past history with them ect.

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