• what a weekend, what a weekend

    by  • June 16, 2008 • race coverage • 49 Comments

    It’s that time of the year where you can’t shake a stick but find some drama out on the tarmac.

    hnut_trainderoman.jpgUp at the Nature Valley GP … Charles Grathous has been sending out awesome wrap ups of the event – i’ll try and log them together and put them on a NVGP re-cap page. Very, very cool.

    Sutherland and the HNutz are the DeathStar of the american peloton, right now. You’ve got a guy pulling domestique duty for Sutherland who just set a blistering sub-50minute 40K at Sattley (the slowest, crappiest 40K at elevation this side of Bogota).  Word scuttled about that it’s a course record and that’s something i love to hear.

    Well done, RKillit.

    So, you know that squad is running en fuego when one of the hired guns is spinning that fast and still be but a man to slave away at the front for Sutherland.

    right on.

    – – –

    Over in Harlem, there’s a wondrous bit of phot-age that shows some kid sticking it to RockRacing and then slipping himself all over the floor in celebration.

    le_slip.jpgoy, its gotta burn to have that chasing you around on the tongues of east-coast baggers.

    -

    still, great gawdamn win.

    -

    but racing in New York just holds so little appeal to me.

    except for a velodrome, maybe…

    – – –

    NEVADA CITY, baby!

    fromippoc.jpgawww yeah, NevCity was yesterday and a great race to watch. Sara Bamberger dominated it solo for the women and not a person you’ll ever find who didn’t approve of that action. Bamberger is one of NorCal’s own and it was incredibly pleasing to see her put a stamp on the record books for all to remember.

    Yup, it’s the 48th running of those sierra foothills … and i just can’t wait for the 50th ~ what a party that will be.

    Justin England saw a sliver of crack in BMC’s Nydam with 3 laps to go and shot away for a 2nd win of the event. The Toyota-United team is looking for sponsors next year … and you gotta think races like this are what prospective advertisers want to see. England was magic for the local media and every one of the thousands at the race yesterday heard that brand echoing around the town.

    money well spent.

    My VOS-mates were awesome all weekend. Dan Martin cuh-rushed the field for another beautific solo win. Angermann of Specialized and chico rider Andrew Barlow were the podium grabbers in the 35s … and, lo and behold ~ BigBubbaMelcher finally got his Nevada City crown in the 45s. That was satisfying to see.

    ALMOST as satisfying as seeing my old-skool homie from Reno, Spencer Erickson, win himself the Elite 3s race. It was a GREAT 3s race that saw Spencer somehow stay away solo in the final agonizing laps … away from a hard charging pack sprint that would see young Chris Stastny (wearing my VanderKitten jersey, yo. he had forgotten his kit at home and needed something to race in! hell yeah, my kind of bike rider) take a bike throw in front of Sycip’s Aaron Bonar.

    excellent race.

    – – –

    roar_lil_mousey.jpgAnd last Friday Night kicked it all off with our last event in June.

    whew …

    cuz i need a rest. The next event will be hosted by Velo Bella on July 11th … and i can tell you ~ they have big plans.

    set your calendars, folks.

    In the meantime, go check out some of KenConnelly’s sweet pics if you’d like to see some of the night’s shenanigans.

    Friday Night Racing has entered into the rulery fray … you see, our officials are strictly enforcing laws of the sprint. Last Friday we had a HUGE move thrown down by Kieran in the a Match Sprint round.  He swung under WorldCup rider Steve Palaez in dramatic fashion and drilled it to the line, with Palaez fading back in half-protest well after Kieran’s pass underneath.

    But the officials relegated Kieran for an illegal pass as Palaez retained the sprinter’s lane and Kieran entered the blueband to overtake.

    It was a very, very hard call … but one put down and enforced for safety.

    however, it must be said … what an amazing attempt by the Kieren. I see big things for this sprinter in the coming years. He just has to improve those puny calves of his!

    cookie_wins_then_loses.jpgWe also had US Scratch Champ, Dave McCook, relegated in the Miss-n-Out for swinging down on Palaez in the final pull-lap.

    It was down to BB, McCook, Palaez, and Tamel. Tamel took the initiative and drove most a lap with BB in hot pursuit. The final elimination looked locked between McCook and Palaez as they positioned themselves a bit off and behind BB’s wheel. McCook had Palaez trapped in the pole as they passed the 200m line, but Cookie tossed in a flick just too far beyond the pale of the officials and was relegated.

    heady, heady times indeed.

    Nobody wants to water down the racing in these parts … but, when it comes to safety ~ thems are the rules.

    I can’t wait to see a rematch in the coming weeks.

    Hellyer Velodrome … best racing around.

    more later, gotta scoot for now (apologies for non-editing … as always).

    m

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    1. rick
      June 16, 2008 at

      Hernando rocked the house doing the announcing up here in Nevada City Yesterday!! I watch the race every year, with the exception of the 2 years I was stupid enough to race it, and you did a 10X better job announcing then anyone else.

    2. sabine
      June 16, 2008 at

      I’m a little biased, but I thought he did an amazing job.

      It was so much fun to hear everyone’s names, regardless of category. And the enthusiasm at the finish of each race totally got the crowd into it.

    3. Ippoc Amic
      June 16, 2008 at

      of course kitty people are biased too…move over roll…here comes hernandooooo

    4. June 16, 2008 at

      fabulous job!

    5. funkdaddy
      June 16, 2008 at

      Nice to hear Sarah took the win. I heartily approve of that action…

    6. Walker
      June 16, 2008 at

      Olaf,
      Hey, can you send me your direct email to me at jasonwal@microsoft.com

      Nice work yesterday.

      Jason

    7. June 16, 2008 at

      Word has gotten back to me that you ROCKED THE MIC yesterday, just like I knew you would!! Great job!

    8. June 16, 2008 at

      He was GREAT on the microphone at the NC Classic – the dude knew everyone!

      The only bummer part was…..he didn’t race. Oh well. Still, he is a great race announcer – one of the best.

    9. roman kilun
      June 16, 2008 at

      Thanks man, we had a great time at NVGP, the team is really coming together in an amazing way.

      RK

    10. June 16, 2008 at

      Harlem was soooo funny! Just shows you what a joke pro racing is. What good is a big all the genes and a big VO2 of you can’t even win a race peoperly. Screw the pros and focus on where the money is….with the working stiff. Keep cycling cool.
      TJ

    11. June 16, 2008 at

      spelling and grammar is not a strong point….but wine is.

    12. Michael Hernandez
      June 16, 2008 at

      that’s what i’m talkin’ about.

      and thanks for the props on the mic work. i know i blew out some crap there that had the heads shaking … but, i’ll get better.

      and nice ride, Kilun. carry that action through for some more races.
      m

    13. Keith Quinzo
      June 16, 2008 at

      TJ needs a bj. Relax man! It was hot and a slip on the handlebars — we’ve all done silly things. Cycling has taken a few hits and we all need to stick together. Besides, he won the race — when was the last race you won? So be cool dude and stop hatin’. Peace.

    14. June 16, 2008 at

      Hey just saw that you’re doing the DS gig again for PA Lightning squad at the Tour of Pennsylvania. Info, stories please

      Would love to know more about the younguns coming up.

    15. Grey
      June 16, 2008 at

      Yay, Sarah La-Bam. That’s rad.

    16. June 16, 2008 at

      Yes Quizno is right. I need a BJ, but come on! We all race in the rain and don’t fall off. And the last time I won a race was three years ago…thank you very much! Cat 5 twilites count right?

    17. June 16, 2008 at

      Remember Zola Bud?

    18. June 17, 2008 at

      I believe Sarah won on Saturday at the Pesky RR too. Back to back Saturday and Sunday…awesome! Photos will eventually be posted here:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/khphotos/sets/72157605620960918/

    19. June 17, 2008 at

      I think we can agree that we *all* need a bj. Or at least that a group bj would make the world a better place.

      Anyway.

      I second all the great job on the mic comments — where do you get all of that infectuous energy?

    20. M.Mouse
      June 17, 2008 at

      In the name of safety? Please. Elite racing isn’t safe, it is hard and when Mickey Mouse relegations happen it dumbs down Hellyer racing. For the weaker classes(3’s, masters, etc) keep it safe. At the Elite level w/ 3 riders that have raced around the World let them work it out. They know racing better than any of the officials (or commentators) at Hellyer. Don’t make all of bike racing gay, keep track brutal.

    21. Michael Hernandez
      June 17, 2008 at

      baby, you don’t know what brutal is.

      the best bike racers? civilized assassins.

      and i’m racing this Tuesday at the track if you want to try out whether you think you can handle this amount of gay.

      come on out and let your legs do some talking.
      m

    22. M.Mouse
      June 17, 2008 at

      I will be sure to do it gay-er than you with bigger kitty ears on my helmet and I will go with a docked tail. I’ll scream like a girl, as you do and complain like a roadie when a trackie rides the track – well, like the track should. Maybe I should have a dildo stick outta my ear, would that be gay-er than you? You are such the expert! You are so smart and good and neat and gay! Gay, gay, gay! Let’s be gay!

      Better yet, instead of racing on Tuesday why don’t you live up to your responsibilities (sp?) and catch up on your minutes since you are the Sec of the NCVA and the results of Friday Nights. Slacker.

    23. Michael Hernandez
      June 17, 2008 at

      bahhaaaaha…

      good, as long as we got that all cleared up.

      see you at the track, and bring more more more!
      m

    24. Jen
      June 17, 2008 at

      “Kieran entered the blueband to overtake.
      It was a very, very hard call … but one put down and enforced for safety.”

      Blah, blah, blah – he rode the blue band for like all of turn 2 – that was a clear violation – not a hard call to make.

      Cookie’s call was lame, WTF – bunch of big babies!

      sorry for the rant, but know I would never bug you about BOD minutes :-)

    25. Michael Hernandez
      June 17, 2008 at

      that coler …
      so hot right now.

    26. Handy
      June 17, 2008 at

      Did mom just sling some shit talk????

    27. Michael Hernandez
      June 17, 2008 at

      how badass is Dash’er gonna be on the boards?

      coler’s brass ones
      and franklin’s madness

      hellyer’s set for a couple decades.

    28. June 17, 2008 at

      Hey Mikey thanks again for the kit man. I appreciated it. Check out my new blog, i wrote all about my Nevada city experience there.
      Thanks
      =]

      http://thestaz.blogspot.com/

    29. Michael Hernandez
      June 17, 2008 at

      hell yeah. added to the list, yo.

      see you at the next one.
      m

    30. Kieran Cox
      June 17, 2008 at

      ““Kieran entered the blueband to overtake.
      It was a very, very hard call … but one put down and enforced for safety.”

      Blah, blah, blah – he rode the blue band for like all of turn 2 – that was a clear violation – not a hard call to make.”

      Really? That was the largest steaming pile of BS I’ve experienced in cycling yet. I NEVER pass on the blue line. S.Peleaz was flirting with the red line looking left and right over his shoulders. He went above the red for 1/2 second as he looked back over his right shoulder, and I dove into his blind spot and into the sprinter’s lane that he had abandoned by moving up above the red.
      He then out of shock jumped and came down on me as I was passing him, forcing me onto the blue. THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL DANGEROUS! He came down on me out of sheer surprise. I was nice and gently nudged him up as I passed.

      What is important is that the pass started with him above the sprinter’s line. Seeing me down onto the blue is a result of me being nice about my 210lb self and 18lb bike. If anything, considering our lame Friday sprint format without reps, the race should have been rerun with a FIRM warning to both Peleaz for coming down on the sprinters lane and me for executing such a risky pass.

      What I can tell you is that this does not encourage me to be “nice” anymore. So from now on when people come down on me, they will get firm by-the-rules reminder that I in fact out weigh most people by at least 30lbs. No more Mr. Nice guy.

      Furthermore, Gio has done the same thing to me on several past occasions and I slowed down to try to come around. NO RELEGATION OR WARNING THERE from the refs! Gio was nice enough to even apologize for it the second time saying that I should have complained to the refs about it, but that’s not my style, especially if I chose to ease up in the name of safety.

      To add insult to injury in the next round Gio flew up out of the sprint lane in turn 3 impeding the pass of Peleaz in the sprint. Was he relegated? NO, just a warning. That is BS.

      That is what you call preferential treatment. Everyone saw it. I can handle a bad call as long as they are calling it all bad, but I WILL NEVER BE SILENT OVER PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. If Gio was issued a warning then I should have been too.

      Funny how my relegation, Cookie’s relegation, and the Gio incident are all centered around 2 common denominators, the Refs, and S.Peleaz. Perhaps, that’s just a coincidence.

      I hope so.

      -kieran

      P.S. To top it off a few other sprinters came up and complained about the officiating that night, regarding several other incidents. I wonder why I was the only sprinter relegated?

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    32. Margin Walker
      June 17, 2008 at

      I have to say that I was watching the sprints pretty close Friday and this round in question, KC v SP; I saw it the exact same way Kieran described it.

      S.Peleaz was flirting with the red line looking left and right over his shoulders. He went above the red for 1/2 second as he looked back over his right shoulder, and I dove into his blind spot and into the sprinter’s lane that he had abandoned by moving up above the red.
      He then out of shock jumped and came down on me as I was passing him, forcing me onto the blue.

      And given that the officials didn’t actually see it and only called it based on being asked to “make” a call ( I say this because they didn’t initiate the review, the mc did) then they should have asked each racer to own up and in the event they both said “no foul” then they rerun the heat. Simple as that.

      IMHO this does not mean Kieran should act like a dumb ass and storm around the infield throwing water bottles while the entire upgrade committee sits around and observes his lack of control.

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    34. Jen
      June 18, 2008 at

      Kieran-
      sorry, I didn’t see Steve come above the red line – I was over there in the infield playing with a bunch of kids. What I saw was Steve in the sprint lane and then you pass on the blue band (in between those 2 events I probably was tagged “it” and had to go chase someone) I apologize unreservedly that I didn’t get the whole picture.

    35. Marc
      June 18, 2008 at

      Well I did not see this stuff, but each official is going to call things a little differently. It is all subjective, as is the rider’s memory of the ride. There is a new crew of officials at the track now and they have to set the tone for rider conduct. There are lots of tricks and judgement to use out there. One of the judgements is what you can and can not get away with out there. It is easy to complain about officials and your friday experience may seem bitter, but hopefully it will be a good learning experience and you will come back and excel in the sprints.

    36. M.Mouse
      June 18, 2008 at

      The problem is that the officials and the promoters have not raced, officiated, or organized at the level a lot of our athletes have raced and make kindergarden kalls. It makes or racing into slot cars and not bump and grind, afterall rubbin’ is racin’. It also confuses the spectators because they don’t know what is going on, no matter how much Michael screams his girly lungs out and tries to explain (which is hard because you – Michael – barely know track racing, fitness does not apply – or gayness.)

      In regards to what’s-his-face saying that they are Paelez biased is bull. But they might give the veteran the benifit of the doubt. Your 213.349 lbs means crap. I know 140 lb riders that can move you up and down the track like a Hot Wheel in a kids greasy hand. It’s technique not weight – your extra weight will cause you to crash harder when you make a stupid emotional move trying to be a bully.

      Back to the problem: inexperienced personel and officiating trying to understand the intracacies of World Class racing and calling foul to good ol’ hard racing.

    37. Michael Hernandez
      June 18, 2008 at

      oh little dodging balls,
      ready to be pounced upon.

      i can’t wait,
      now that i’m free to express myself fully to you.

      we’ll talk soon, yes?

      i’ll look for you.
      – – -

    38. June 18, 2008 at

      hello. a bit of a segway off topic, but do people please think they could please stop using “gay” and “retarded” as adjectives for “stupid”? (this isn’t just related to the above post, but is quite a common occurance, that is quite unnecessary.)

      the english language is rich with glorious putdowns. i will be more than happy to provide a long list of good, more creative adjectives if need be. but i do not think it is necessary to be disrespectful and hurtful.

      thank you and sorry for the PC comment, but i think there were valid points above, and these are hard for me to concentrate on substantively when such language is used.

    39. Marc
      June 18, 2008 at

      One way not to work at Hellyer as an official,
      become a NatCom or licensed track starter. We have great track officials who for whatever reason are not asked to work at Hellyer. Not making judgements, that is just the way it is at present. SO if you are looking for experts,
      they are here, we just are not using them. That said, this is Friday night, and it is perfect for getting experience as a ref or starter. But AVC, and state championships should be officiated by experienced people, like licensed starters and NatComms.

    40. Justin
      June 18, 2008 at

      Jeezus! So much trashin’! So much dramatical drama! 758lb Kieran throwing fits in the infield– in a skinsuit!?

      Okay, that’s it. I’m coming down to race next week. Gotta see what this trackie shit is all about.

    41. sabine
      June 18, 2008 at

      to the m mouse…

      I am responsible for results, so bring your complaints about that to me.

      And, just for you…what would Chuck Norris do?

      just sayin.

    42. casey
      June 18, 2008 at

      Kieran – From the announcing tower I never say Palez come out of the sprinters lane. To me it was an easy call. You have to realize that in any situation where the lead rider is just barely out of the sprinters lane the following rider is almost never going to get the call. The lead rider has to be clearly out of the lane ( enough for the officials to see it and have it register in their minds that the leader is out of the lane) before the following rider is going to get the call. Look at the Carpenter/Swift sprint in the Olympic trials ( 1996 I believe) as a prime example.

      M Mouse – If you want world class officiating then either pony up larger entry fees or go find the sponsorship to pay for a world class set up for the officials. A true world class event will have one official in each corner plus a separate starter, chief ref, Chief judge and 3 asst. judges. You can’t expect a much smaller crew to be in the proper positions to see everything thing correctly. The international standards are moving away from allowing the same level of bumping and physical contact between riders. It use to be that head butting was OK in a Keirin, that is not the case any more. Even the world class officials are going to get it wrong once in a while. Look back at the year our own Jeff Solt won the nationals in 4 rides. No reason for that 4th ride other than the national level officials couldn’t bring themselves to make the same call on their favorite Marty that they eagerly made against Jeff in an earlier ride

    43. CardiacKid
      June 18, 2008 at

      Palaez dangled some bait and Kieran took it. I saw the race and immediately knew he would be dq’d even if Paleaz with flirting with the red line. But it was a impulsive move tried by someone out of position, 230m from the finish, not going very fast.

      Lesson time – ride to your strengths. Riding a foot behind the leader at 22 mph 230m from the finish is to no rider’s strength. Figure out how to ride with a gap or how to take the lead and ride from the front.

    44. Kieran
      June 19, 2008 at

      “Palaez dangled some bait and Kieran took it. I saw the race and immediately knew he would be dq’d even if Paleaz with flirting with the red line. But it was a impulsive move tried by someone out of position, 230m from the finish, not going very fast.

      Lesson time – ride to your strengths. Riding a foot behind the leader at 22 mph 230m from the finish is to no rider’s strength. Figure out how to ride with a gap or how to take the lead and ride from the front.

      Or I guess figure out how to cheat in such a way as to not be noticed, and have it look like the other guy did. I guess it takes experience to pull that off as it was done really well in that sprint. I obviously have a lot to learn.

      Maybe someday I’ll be able to cheat with the best of them!

      -kieran

    45. gio
      June 19, 2008 at

      hiya Kieran and all…

      there is no “cheating” here. I resent that.

      I think the limit is what we can all handle and come away with a pleasant smile on our faces. when we are at the world championships and getting paid to ride then we can change our standards… and hire 20 officials per race instead of 2. I guess that is what Casey said. we are all just playing on our bikes here.

      I never said I fouled Kieran (or Steve)… but I freely admit that a well meaning official could make a call either way and I encouraged you and steve to make your case. Knowing that our officials are well-meaning I do subject myself to their discretion. That is just how it is.

      what really matters to me (and the officials I think) is that noone was ever in a situation that they could not handle and that we all went home more or less satisfied with our riding/racing.

      what’s the big deal? this stuff is fun, remember.

      it’s easy to get bent about racing rules and results. for sure I’ve done it… but I regret it. (letting myself take it too seriously and not appreciate all the good stuff).

      cheers,
      gio

    46. casey
      June 19, 2008 at

      Kieran There is a difference between cheating and smart sprinting. Remember that even if the lead rider is riding above the sprinters line all he has to do is get his front wheel into contact with the sprinters line before the following rider can establish an overlap with the leaders rear wheel to legally reclaim the sprinters lane. This is a tactic used by sprinters of all levels. The tactic can backfire on the leader if they can’t get back into the sprinters lane before an overlap is established. The true question isn’t if the leader was out of the sprinters lane, it is did the leader get back into the lane before an overlap was established. If the leader does get back into the lane before an overlap then the leader is legal and the following rider has to back out of the passing move. If the leader didn’t get back into the lane before there was an overlap then the following rider has rights to the lane and can compete the pass legally

      I remember seeing the final ride between Curt Harnet and Mark Gorski in I think the 86 Sundance series final. Gorski was leading out the sprint into turn 3 on the final lap. Harnet laid back off Gorski enough to build up some speed . Gorski was riding just above the sprinters line hoping to sucker Harnet into trying a pass underneath so Gorski could trap Harnet low. Harnet started to make his run over the top. At the last possible second, when Gorski started to turn his head to the right so he could see where Harnet was, Harnet dove under Golski, who was still out of the sprinters lane. By the time Golski knew where Hrnet was Harnet had drawn even with Golski and was moving much quicker.

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